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Jan 01, 2011 JamesHudnall Obama Nation 21 Comments">21 Comments

JamesHudnall

James Hudnall has been a professional writer since 1986. He's been a web developer since 1999. James currently lives in San Diego, California.
  • Anonymous

    How many jobs were created from January 20, 2001 through January 20, 2009? How many jobs have been created since 2009?

    • Anonymous

      Presidents can only create government jobs. Any president who claims they can create jobs in the private sector is a fraud.

      And every government job costs money that comes from the private sector. The more government employees, the less money there is for businesses to hire people.

      All politicians can do is make things easier on business. This administration (and the last one in many ways) has only made things harder on business which is partially why the economy sucks.

      • Anonymous

        How many jobs were created from January 20, 2001 through January 20, 2009? How many jobs have been created since 2009?

        • Anonymous

          What’s the matter, you don’t know? Or do you?

          The unemployment charts shows the difference.

          http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet?series_id=LNS14000000

          http://libertyworks.com/will-obamas-job-growth-ever-equal-bushs/

          I’ve seen that bogus chart the progs were using to try to claim Obama created more jobs than Bush. NEITHER created jobs. The private sector creates jobs. Government policies makes a climate better or worse for business. Obama’s made things much worse.

          • Anonymous

            If you believe government cannot create jobs, it seems silly to complain that the president has not created enough jobs.

          • Anonymous

            No, I complain that he claims he can. See my first response.

          • Patrick Gerard

            So… Are you maintaining that tax cuts create jobs?

            Because if they do, then that becomes an important part of police.

            As a former Republican who used to buy into the standard conservative beliefs a lot more, I’d argue that people above a certain bracket don’t create wealth. The government is inefficient at it but capable of doing it. People in the top 5% aren’t going to expand the job market in the right ways whereas the government will just do it badly.

            I’m not suggesting handouts are needed for every poor person (like myself, as a student) but I would suggest that people in the top bracket:

            A) Owe their wealth to America’s infrastructure and morally should contribute to social welfare programs more through taxes.
            B) Are worse than government at creating jobs. At that level, they’re trying to eliminate jobs and become more efficient, not bigger or better or innovative in ways that benefit the community.

            Bottom line, I think both parties have it wrong but Democrats’ route is one of slow, inefficient progress prone to stalling out and Republicans’ route is pure death.

            I say… Tax the wealthy. It’s absolutely fair to tax them at a higher rate. It isn’t penalizing success. It’s asking for fair compensation for wealth that our society enabled, wealth that is beyond not only need but beyond any reasonable standard of luxury.

            The people who need support and relief are what I’d call upper middle class, between $50k-250k a year in income or so, particularly businesses with local management and fewer than 20 employees. The people who are a part of the day to day, ground level operations of the business they own. Those people have the room and hunger to grow and should absolutely be the favored means of stimulating growth through taxcuts and subsidies.

          • Anonymous

            “So… Are you maintaining that tax cuts create jobs?

            Because if they do, then that becomes an important part of police.”

            Huh? What does that mean? If you’re saying taxes are needed to pay for police. that comes out of local property taxes and other local taxes. For a large part, so do roads, which are also paid for by state tax revenues. Not relevant to federal taxes except the feds subsidize some of these things on occasion.

            The rest of your argument makes even less sense. Penalizing someone who earned wealth because they were successful is a solution to nothing. It’s called theft. Government doesn’t solve poverty, it creates it. The government has spent trillions of dollars on social programs and look what a great result they got. It’s policies have driven many industries in the US to failure and cost millions of jobs.

            The US is the richest country in the world by far and in human history. The government takes in more money than the GDP of most nations on earth combined. And that’s just tax revenue. Yet it has a 14+ trillion dollar debt. That is gross mismanagement. The Democrats are the party of spending and taxes. Moreso than the republicans. That means they have spent more money yet little has been accomplished. We have poured billions into education and we have some of the lowest test scores in the developed world. That is not because people here are stupid. It;’s because our education system is mismanaged and corrupt.

            The more money you give bureaucrats, the more they waste it. Giving them more money isn’t a solution. The fact is the more money they get the more they want. They never do what they say they will when they get the money they want. They just ask for more. I am 53. I have been listening to their lies all my life.

            The so called rich already pay the vast majority of taxes in this country. That is not the problem.

            The government should live within their means, then they will be forced to be responsible. This isn’t responsible.

            http://www.usdebtclock.org/

          • Guest

            I believe he meant ‘policy’ not ‘police’ – a typo.

          • Anonymous

            So it’s just a coincidence that more jobs were created in the last year than during the entire W. Bush administration?

          • Anonymous

            I’ve seen that chart. Utterly bogus. I gave you the government’s own info. It shows otherwise.
            If you want to believe lies, go ahead. That’s not my problem. It’s yours.

          • Anonymous

            Here’s an explanation of why the recent prog argument is a dishonest one. http://ace.mu.nu/archives/310374.php

            And frankly, neither president “created jobs”. The economy did.

          • Anonymous

            And yet the economy created more jobs in one year of Obama’s presidency than in eight of Bush’s. Odd, that.

          • Anonymous

            You can go back under your bridge now that you’ve bored us all with your self perceived wit.

          • Anonymous

            You’re not very bright, are you?

          • Anonymous

            Ah, here we go. Personal attacks when failed arguments go nowhere.

          • Anonymous

            Not a personal attack, just an observation: You are not very bright. That’s OK. Lots of good people aren’t very bright.

          • Anonymous

            The problem with your observation is you’d have to know the difference.

            FYI: Bright people aren’t ideologues who buy into propaganda without looking at the underlying data, I provided you with an analysis of the data that shows the argument you made is utterly false. Yet you ignored it.

            I don’t care about political parties and I certainly don’t care what political operatives claim to be true without making the effort to scrutinize it. You should try that sometime.

          • Anonymous

            I ignored your analysis because it’s very silly, and written by people who aren’t very bright, like yourself. But you already know that.

          • Everybody Draw Obama Day

            Don’t feed trolls :D

          • Anonymous

            So it’s just a coincidence that more jobs were created in the last year than during the entire W. Bush administration?

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